Wuh Yuh Say Podcast
Wuh Yuh Say Podcast

Episode 14 · 1 year ago



Join Myself and David Johnson, creator and face behind "Let's Unpack It", which is a safe place that talks about and deals with Mental Health. Have a look with the links below and check them out and support them as much as possible. I'll discuss anything given to me that may be a concern to persons today. Sooo.... LEAVE YOUR THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS BELOW!!!! and maybe just maybe your topic will be in the next episode! 

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Hi, guys, are welcome backto yet another this is the first way stay episode podcast video for the year. So happy new year to everybody that's tuned in, whether it's this viaaudio and sounder or any others listening platforms, or if you're watching it on Youtube. Happy New Year to all of you guys. Today is going tobe a very interesting one because I know that a lot of people are goingthrough lockdown around the world right now, and I mean in barbarous we haveour own the curfew. So it's like a mini feels to me, Ilike a mini lockdown. But today I'm going to be talking with somebody thathas an instagram page that deals to specifically with mental health, and I knowhow important that really is. That is something that is talks boat constantly throughmy generation and it's something that a lot of people take very, very seriously, especially their love we're pages like this one. So not to hold youguys aren't for it on, not to make you guys hold on too long. Let's get straight into it. It's called let's UN pocket, so let'sget straight into the episode. I'll hope you guys do enjoy this one.Subscribe as as normal. If you are listening, follow and comment down belowin the description and why you think about mental health and turn the post notificationbell. And I hope you guys do enjoy this episode. I already didthe introduction already, so it's just a matter of fact of just introducing you. David, you as used as mean. Just a few seconds ago you toldme that you're doing medicine, you're studying in Grenada, but your pageis called LEX and packet. What was the firstly, I should already getinto what was the idea and like the whole thought process of creating a pagethat is based around mental health really alsome so great question, and there area lot of factors that pay into that. You know, from a very youngage I was always someone who people came to for a lot of advice, who people felt comfortable with speaking to, and you know that happened a lot. Moving forward then, with all my social media pages, whether Instagram, snapchat, whatever, I try to put a lot of inspiring content,and so I used to do all of these. I the QA's on Instagram, and one of them in particular struck me. I was not asking peopleabout how they do with stress and some of the responses that I got werea bit concerning and I had this custom with my friends and my friends werelike, yeah, you need to go for this, you need to dosomething, and you know, I pondered on it for a little bit andthen one day just decided enough was enough and I created this page and eversince then it's grown and I've welcome to a number of parts as well whowere boosted and, you know, energize about both speaking about mental health and, you know, addressing all the issues that we face the society. Soyeah, one year later, we're here. So I guess that we take definitelyas people look up to you as a role model in the sense andsomebody that, as you said, that somebody can talk to. So youobviously value and cherish mentally the importance of mental health. But in your opinion, amongst our generation, how important is it to be in check with yourmental sight and how important is it for you to do the certain things tomake sure that your mental health is good and not deteriorating because of me?I'll we're noting the pandemic and just don't not down. Some people are overseas, etc. Etc. So important is it for us to really be acheck with them. Yeah, it's absolutely vital and for the exact reasons thatyou've mentioned. There are a lot of challenges that we, as young peopleface today and that's not, you know,... an injustice so what our parents, that are grandparents to have faced in their time. But the unfortunatething, fortunate and unfortunate, we have social media now. We have alot of other challenges in terms of that come out of that, in termsof cyberbullying, in terms of people trying to find their image, you know, finding their identity and hold. That all fits into to everything. Ithink mental health is extremely important, especially for our students. Know, they'reunder a lot more pressure and I think, you know, we're still in thatkind of early phase. I mean it's not too long ago when ourparents are maybe grandparents even. We're not affording the same opportunities that we hadin terms of like furthering their education, further in their studies, and Ithink especially when it comes to education, when it comes to studying, alot of people are under a lot of stress and they're facing a lot ofanxiety, and what a lot of people don't know is that stress and anxietyand dealing with tiredness, having a good sleep schedule. These are all thingsthat fit into the subject of mental health. So it's not that mental health isjust about schizophrenia or depression by polar disorder. That's not the whole picture, and that's probably one thing that I would like for everyone to understand itso we can move forward as a society, is that mental health is much biggerthan these things. So yeah, definitely, absolutely vital and it's it'saddress it. They're there're a lot of small things that we can do to, you know, just keep our mental health intact. Yeah, especially,I do agree with you on on that note, because it's about the thingsthat me, especially you just say our home. You're just letting around allthe time. You see in the same environment for such a long time,especially abomation. We had the lotdown. Yeah, it can capt I canif you kind of long and it just gets a bit boring. You know, you're not getting no says meet. You may go save any guard andor whatever it is, but you're not really experiencing and we as humans,we thrive off being social. Yeah, and we we if we need tocommunicate with people, and is one thing to say that you have social media, but it's not the same thing when you're literally having a laugh with yourfriends and playing a game, whatever it is. So I mean, andjust to get away from that bit, you know how you have, asyou said, you we've grown. You know how five hundred and sixty sevenfollowers and you've interviewed on a number of people know that have been brave enoughto come on and talk about themselves and their challenges. So as to thisday, do you still receive messages, whether it's on your personal page orif it's on the lesson pocket instagram page, who come to you asking you forany advice what to do? And if they do come for any advice, why voice could you give to people that are listening or watching that?That's simple things that they can do to just help keep their mental their mentalaspect in check and keep it you keep them saying really good so one disclaimeris that nobody on the team is a certified mental health professional as yet.So as much as possible we try not to give personal advice just for thesake of, you know, not preaching any ethical code and so on andso forth. But the one recommendation that I always make is to speak tosomeone. Yeah, you know, as a society of particulization, again,is this whole idea of strength, and we define strength in many different ways, but overwhelmingly we think that strength means that we have to go through thingsalone. And that's one thing that I want to debunk right at the outset, and that's that's not the definition of strength. In fact, I thinksomeone who is strong will reach out to as many resources as they can toget the best possible outcome. So that's the one thing that I always sayto people is to seek help as soon as possible, and help seeking canbe from anyone. It could be you sitting on with a friend, itcould be with you speaking to a guidance...

...counts, or it could be goingto the therapist, it could be seeking a pharmacological means of getting treatment right. So that's one thing, but then beyond that is really checking in withoneself. Yeah, a lot of us have this love hate relationship with ourfeelings. We love when we're on a highly love when we're on the mountaintalk, but there are there times when we're going to face those challenges andyou know, we don't like to sit with those feelings to. So where'sthe point that we suppress or we repress those feelings because we don't like tofeel like we're not in control, and I think that's that's what it reallyboils down to, a level of control of one's thoughts, a level ofcontrol over one's emotions. So really sitting with your emotions and allowing yourself tofeel what you feel, seeking treatment if you do need that treatment, andthen, of course, selfcare. Think that's another thing that I love.US struggle with is whole do we balunce caring for others and also caring forourselves, and especially those people take a personal personalities and those people who alwayshave to Ho, go, go, is very hard for them to findtime for themselves, and I think that's what's really important, because it's inthose times of just relux, of relaxing and spending quality time with oneself andtreating oneself that you really discover who you truly are and you become one withwhat you're feeling and then you can make a move to address any issues thatyou're facing. So yeah, those are my my quick tips, I think, or anyone dealing with a mental each other. Yeah, but I meanas easy as it is for somebody that may be able to do some ofthese things. I know that, especially amongst our generation with twitter and socialand instagram and all these other social medias, is so you put yourself over thereand it's so easy to be ridiculed. But for something, and we're especially, I don't know, take this to the do to the male sideof everything. Now we're yeah, a lot of males are tap tend tobe seen as strong, and that's something that has been ingrained into our societywhere now, if if a man is not really a man, doesn't tendto show his feeling, but if he's is showing his feelings, seeming asweek. So how do you get more men to come out and be braver, to really beef in tune with their emotions and their mental side, becauseit's so easy for people to be afraid to come out because they can beridicute and feel afraid that they will be laughed at, and then they thenstruggle by themselves and have to have to deal with it by themselves. AndI mean, as you said, that's not something that is seeing that thisshould be seen in strength. So, yeah, what what do you think? That more men could do to get over that hurdle, to ray comeout and deal with it. Yeah, that's a very excellent question and it'ssomething that still perplexes a lot of people. I say that this particular issue ismultiposited and we need to go back in our history and really sit withour history and understand why do we think the way that we think. Ithink, certainly in a Caribbean context, a lot of us are afraid todiscuss slavery because we think that slavery, when we talk about slavery, weregoing back instead of moving forward. I would say, quite contrary, weneed to go back have a look at history so we can move forward.And some of this, this this issue comes from socialization. This issue isrooted in slavery, the perspectives that men were just tools, just moving fromplace to place. They were made to just impregnant women and to go intoa field and work. That was the extent so what a man was,and so there was a need really to, you know, hold one's image andhigh regard and there was a need to prove oneself. Flash forward tothe society that we live in today,...

...using the same twitter up, therea lot of females that I see that say that they prefer a man whois intact with their emotions. Yeah, it's a certain extent that's true,but then there are also a lot of females who don't like that. Orwhen they're the man that they like, their partner is going through a struggleand he approaches them, then they face the ridicule. And so we havethis issue with a set of distrust, because the ladies are saying thing,but then when we do share with them, they're not as easy to receive.And that's not the case for everyone, but that is sometimes hold. Theman thinks beyond that as well. Is this thing that I think alot of men don't like to ask set is that we seek or approval fromone another. Let's take the issue of health, for instance. Men Whodo not go to get cross state checks because they're afraid that when they talkabout cross the checks to another man that he will kill him and that there'ssome kind of link between going for a cross state check and one sexuality,which is really and truly not the case. Right. And so in that sensewe do seek approval from one another and by, you know, acknowledgingall of these things, then we can move forward to make means of hopsaddress it. Number One is education. Right, a lot of us donot, you know, approve of things, are upset, things which we don'tunderstand and, I think, overwhelming dust the problem that we face thisas a society with mental health. We don't fully understand it and there's stilla lot of things that we don't know, and so it's hard to discuss itand it's easier than to create a stigma surrounding it. So number onewould be to educate people as much as possible. Number two is to getmen to help men. Right when we realize and we have other men werestepping up and speaking about speaking oaks about mental health, and we have mengoing into jobs which are directly involved with mental health and they are therefore ableto help other men cope if their mental health issues, that is also significant. And then the third thing is then sensitizing or community to this. Themore education we have, the more people that are willing to share their theirstories, the more legislation and policy that we have that that surrounds the issueof mental health, the easier is to discuss and what's we can have meaningfulconversations of vote it. I do believe then we can change the whole trajectoryof society in general and then particularly as well, men their approach. Yeah, I know, I I totally agree with everything you just said in terms, because it is something where that a lot of men do find find itvery hard to then talk to other other people, about other men, especiallytheir friends, male friends, body and then they don't have the braver,really courage, and then it's like you keep it in saying is that yousuffering and suffering, suffer, and then trauma comes in, it impacts andlater on in life. But I when I shift it on, because Iwant to be fair, you know, and lawn, I'll put all thefocus onto men. And I know that females do have their own struggles andthey do suffering stuff as well as just as much as men. Men Dodo whether and I know that is known in a society where a lot offemales and women have you know, it is known in history. Real womenhave worked their way to know, being in jobs, high jobs, Ihave works hard to get to where they are. And your love of singup parents, single mothers are working two and three jobs at setter, andI know that that is something that impossible lot of people and a lot ofwomen. Then if they do some of these similar options that a man maydo, they also do get ridiculed for it as well, and it thenimpass them mentally as well. So then, as as you said, didn't,they distrust and there's no real empathy towards them for have doing the samething that man would do. We're in a sense, they should just beequality ready. So for a woman that's,...

I say, a girl that's knowingin a university, that's not looking to really get all into the job, into the whole job world, but she's faced with parental issues and whateveris they ill, is she going to really go about getting that help?Because, I'm mean, it happens with with women as well. Then youhear it from time to time where different women, on different girls tend tobe ridiculed by each other as well as as as well as men, forif they from if a woman is with one ors are two men, theyend up being ridiculed for it as well, but a man is not going tobe as ridiculed as much. So how how do we go about asa younger generation, know to change those society, those sets of norms reallyand truly keep question, and there are so many angles that we think wecan talk about that problem as a society. But I do want to say thisis that number one is always going to be education and advocacy. Right. We see this with much of the social movements that are happening today,in terms of race, in terms of feminism and and so on and soforth, really try to understand what is the roots of the issue and thentrying to address it. The second thing is to know that one has thesupport of each other, and so that's the importance of forming communities, andfor Lui, we started as a page, but we evolved in what we're thinkingabout is the community construct, where we want to get everybody involved andwe want to get everyone's voices of hurt. The next thing is that I thinkwhen you get to that leadership position, consider where you were a couple ofyears ago. I think too often people raise up the ladder name takethe ladder down and they forget that the issues that they faced when they wereachieving upward mobility still exists, and so I think it's important for leaders,from the government right back down to private institutions, right down to the smallbusiness right down to the church. that the shock everybody. Is Important thateveryone is involved in this conversation and is involved in making the society the bestversion of itself. The third thing I would say is knowing when one needsactual and you were alluding before about the parental issues, and that is abig problem in our society. There's this whole notion where people think that,you know, children or adolescence, teenagers even, they shouldn't have any issues. They don't pay village, as what you hear, so they should haveissues. And what the thing is is that people think that when they saythose kind of things, it creates in us a kind of, I don'tknow, a kind of complex to pursue independence and what they consider true strength. What they don't really understand is that when you say those kind of things, it damages one psyche and it creates a level of distrust. It createsa feeling that I cannot approach you to help. You're supposed to be mysupport system and you're telling me that I shouldn't have problems. Well, guesswhat, I do have a problem, but you're not going to be mysolution, and that's a big problem, and so I think for sure weneed to get parents involved on this conversation. We need to you know, drayform, that mental health is actually very important and we need to getguidance concerts, I think, as well to expand their per view. AndI'm not sure about you, but when I was in school, you know, I didn't see the Nance concert that often, and that's possibly because there'sonly one and it's considered. Yeah, there's one for some reason, andso it's difficult to really get across a message about mental health or anything else. A goance colster supposed to do when she has to consul students or hehas to consul students, as well as to generate and education and awareness aboutthe topics. So I think there are...

...a lot of elements that we cancorrect as a society and a lot of ways that we can do this,but I think it all bowls down to education, awareness and also help,seeking a normal lazing assessing care. I bet you that if I ask theaverage of Beijian who do you go to for help with the mental health issue, they don't know right and that's a problem. We know that we callfight one one, where we want a lamblance. We know, we wecall three one and we want the fire the fire station. Who Do wecall when we have a mental health crisis? And I think that is when,when we reflect as a society, we need to understand that if somethingis that important, then we need to have an understanding and a level ofawareness about to. I'm you just just spoke about who do we call reallyand truly that's something that was as on my in my head as I wasjust listening to you as speaking about it. And you spoke about education, educatingpeople, whether it be ourselves or whether it be our parents. Butfor people, for people, whether it's our parents, whether it's us thatare in early relationships or whatever it is with partners, etc. Is somethingthat's known where people always say, you know, don't try to help orheal the other person that's in a relationship right and in. You should letthem handle it and then come back because as as your part, the partnerin the relationship, you're not there to fix that person. But I mean, it's just, it's just my opinion, where it's just simple as simply justlistening to somebody for on their what they need to in a sense,as we say, vent their issues or anything that I can help somebody justget something. Oh, you know, as it is just talking to somebody, as you said. But for people that are any relationships, is it? Why is I mean that's just my opinion, but is it wise forsomebody to be trying to in a sense, fixed their ment, somebody else's mentalissues or their previous trauma, form an x relationship, any family issuesor anything like? Is the relationship good enough to be up the person's safehaven, in a sense, to go and speak about it is? Isthat something that should be made a weird to peep to each other? person'svery, very good question, and an essential one at that. Support Systemis everything. Let's get that on the record right. The next thing istracking and tracing history, again, tracing history generally. As a society,we have an issue atsetting help or seeking help. Let's understand that it isit goes both ways, and so this is as vital to the person givingthe help as it is the person receiving the help. Right. It hasto do with one's thought process, and that's the way I would always sayit's always a good thing to be a friend with someone. Before you getinto an intimate relationship with someone, even in, you know, just afriendly relationship, just freends, just talking, you need to understand hope is thatperson show that they need help and what type of help does that personneed? It's also a good idea not to walk into a situation professing whatyou think that person needs. Right. First thing that the person is goingto think we do that when you come into it with this kind of fixedit mentality or fix me mentality, is going to start to evolve into atherapeutic relationship. What does the therapeutic relationship look like? Well, I'm yourdoctor, I'm telling you what to do, I'm giving you the therapy for whatyou need to do and you may not have a say in it,and you're supposed to just upset that and son enough, that person is goingto get further and further away from you...

...and they'll go to you as oftenas they go to their doctor. So they'll come and see you three timesa year, right, and that's the kind of relationship that you have.That's not what we want, right. And so what even in healthcare,even in medicine, know what we're looking more towards is a more patient,centered model, and that's a show you that even a therapy relationship is evolvingright, where the person tells you what are their needs, what are theirconcerns, and so even in friendships, then, what does that look like? It looks like having a legitimate conversation. If you see someone is having orshowing signs of depression or or sadness chronically, for example, it's okayto go and ask that person, Hey, I noticed you're a bit under theweather. Can I do anything for you? And certainly people will sayno. Most of the time they'll say no, I'm buying, I'm managingit. That's fine. A couple days past you notice the same thing.Hey, just letting you know I'm here for you. That's all people reallyneed sometings, right. It's not that you're going to be the end all, you're gonna have all the solutions for them. Sometimes, as you mentionedbefore, it's just good to sit there and listen to someone. So No, I wouldn't recommend going to a relationship with a fix it mentality. Ialso wouldn't recommend allowing someone to use you as their crutch. Neither should youpresent yourself as a crutch to someone. Yeah, you don't want to goin to a relationship where you are constantly fixing someone. That's not to saythat you don't render assistance and you don't care about the person, you don'tshow them empathy. That's all well and good, but you're not a therapist, you're not a counselor. Yes, you can be there to help someonealong the way, help them with their challenges, but what we don't wantis that that relationship involved into a therapy relationship, because then not only willthey feel that if they have to depend on you and then they start pullingthemselves away, but you will also feel like you're giving, giving, givingto this relationship and you're not receiving anything in return. And I think that'swhere the prods of the issue actually is, is that, you know, itbecomes a one way issue instead of a two way communication, especially,as you just said, in terms of education. Going back to that again, know, how do we as because we have the Internet out in ourfingertips. Essentially, we can search for anything and even if you can necessaryspeak to somebody, body, we have the Internet to go and look forany out of vice or anything like that. So how do we, as ayounger generation, and and even the government and our parents? How dowe educate ourselves one and how does the government help to make more people awareof the importance of mental health, and how do we go about, likemaking that change? I mean, I saw you at the you report,right, I import right, with as as a as a bunch of likeinfluencers. So as well, how do influencers also help, because that meanthat allot people tend to look to the celebrities, the influencers, for anyadded guidance in a science, but it's not already guidance. Where as theyare as where is they influence you in a sense? Yeah, so howcan they also be contributors to educating us to know, I'm value, theimportance of mental health? An absolutely great question, because this is something thatwe need to move forward. I would like to start the government, becauseI think it's very important that a government legitimizes this movement. I think firstof all, for people to appreciate that mental health is a legitimate concern,they must have the statistics to go with it. I think a problem thatwe face in the Caribbean overwhelmingly, is that we do not have good useor good access just to statistics. I think often you would know from goingto do redoing research for certain subjects school,...

...when you go onto Google and youtype in something, the first thing you're going to see is American statistics. Then you'll see Europe and perhaps you'll see a European assessment of the Caribbeanfor a remove right, or you see sometists from all the way back inone thousand nine hundred and eighty which are probably not relevant to today. That'skind I'm or one legitimizing the issue by having statistics and, you know,records there for people to access. The thing that we can do is toevolve the the the product in terms of schools, at secondary schools, atprimary schools, at tertiary level. We need to have more guidance conselors.We need to expand the preview of UPDDANCE concers. We need to have topicsof subjects about how way approach studying, holdway approach test anxiety, because theseare real, real things that people are dealing with. From there we canexpand to community centers and churches and so on and so forth, having thisdiscussion so everyone is on board, launch a campaign, launch a post theircompetition, launch a scholarship, whatever it takes to get the message out.That's how we get it into our schools. Then, especially at our tertiary levelinstitutions, we need to build up access to to to mental health services. I think they're they're people who complain all the time at the main universityin Barbados that they, you know, they want to see someone but thesystem is overwhelmed, or that they only have a few people managing for somany students. So we need to have a good ratio and that made meincentivizing people to get involving careers which are, you know, impacted or which dealwith mental health. So, you know, more scholarships for people whowant to study psychology, more rewards for that, a better track to movestraight from university into an internship, into a job, those kind of thingsare absolutely essential. As for the everyday mind, for the the influencer,I think taking the time to go and do a little research. It mayjust be going on what your youtube video and maybe scrolling through our page geta little education because, realistically, all we're not creating new content. Okay, we're not doing intensive research and and clinical studies and those kind of thingsto get information. No, we're going online, we're doing our research andwe're repackaging it to let everybody else know what this is all about and makingit, you know, a better kind of pocket and I think that comesdown to communication. It comes down to understanding the audience. And when youunderstand that those between it is a one fifteen to twenty four or the highestor at the highest risk of dying by suicide or or attempting suicide, thenyou start to understand that this is the real target group. And it makessense because if we can impot people from such a young age, then theybecome their own influencers. Then they start to, you know, pay attentionto mental health and they'll take it seriously for their lifetime. They'll pass iton to future generations. So I think if we start with the young peoplehold the influence and both we host competitions, how do we packaging information in apalatable and engaging on next citing way? Then we can, you know,have serious discussions about mental health and make significant problems. Yeah, andI mean you, you mentioned it. I was well, I was thinkingmore up. No, by I mean you mentioned it and it came tomy head, especially because, I mean that was something that I spoke aboutin a previous episode with messed up way we're. As you said, there'stest anxiety and know that's something that people face a lot. I mean,my main audience is not. My audience is technically a better room, myage, a bit younger and going up, but it's not many people that thatray understand by know, I know people in Barb with this cold depthdefinitely understand when I say that when eleven...

...year olds go into that room fora common enters exam, they're going a level, but then they come outnot achieving what they can achieve. Yeah, and then they fall short and feelvery disappointed and that sets them back a tremendously because then they don't goto the school that they desire. And I mean that can happen, especiallyespecially with Kate and the importance that is really put on too capers and sex'sand then it's if you for persons that get past those. You didn't seethat. Okay, I mean it was important, but it wasn't as importantas we really looked at. I put the emphasis on and it your yourlife is not necessarily depend on the father that we just have to look ina book, revise study, going to go into an exam room and andthat pressure. I think it's important. And so, in a sense,how do we really get to target those people, especially in whether it beeven as young as eleven plus, you know, to to get over thathurdle, to camp them down count not people before they go into an exam, because I mean for myself, I know that, at least I beforegoing to exam is it's about praying and whatever it is. But for peoplethat aren't as religious as that, how do they get over that hurdle,you know, to go into an exam, to be to be calm and tobe easy? I know that everything can be okay and that I canget over this and it's just about doing your best. So how do weyea target that group? You know, the first thing, I think,is to call it what it is. Sorry, I think you probable thereforeset. Oh, call it what it is. You said, yeah,it is, yeah, number one of them. Call it what it is. It's sounds laty right. I think we have a problem with submantics anddefinitions in our society where we think that if we call something what it isthen that legits and laces it, and then it makes it seem as ifwe have a problem, not that we just have a problem, but somethingis wrong, or deadly wrong with us. No, yeah, you have anxiety. Call it what it is. Let's figure out who we can addressit right. And so you know, Test Asia is something. It's notthe normal worry or nervousness that you get when you're going into an exam orStatius. Is An overwhelming anxiety that you can feel and it can trace backas early as when one is first learning the material. Just the thought ofyou having to apply that material to an exam can create level of anxiety forsome people. That could be triggered the moment of the exam, it couldbe triggered two weeks before, it could be triggered months before. So that'san important thing to understand. And the next thing is to understand one ofthe symptoms. And so a jenerally anxiety presents by an overwhelming feeling of fearand worried and then the symptoms are accorded to an overactivation of one sympathetic nervoussystem and one's fear reflex, if you can call it that. So youget increased heart rate, your eyes are piercing, you may start to sweat, you may get short of breath, you may feel like the room isclosing in on you, you feel that you just can't control yourself. So, for someone who deals with this, who've noticed this before, who askcorneity in the moments, what do you want to do? First of all, remove yourself from stressful people. On the day, on an exam,I don't sit next to friends, I don't sit next to people who Iknow are stressed though as I am, and I don't like to speak topeople who want to ask me last minute questions before the exam under lads me. So you know, Holl theway countrevent that I get there early if Ican, and I want to be one of the first people to probably getin the room. For other people, they may want to be one ofthe last people in the room because sitting...

...there actually contributes to their anxiety.That's one thing. The next thing is to take a breath. Right alot of US underestimate the poor of oxygen blood is in your body for takeof transporting oxygen everywhere and for transporting nutrients. Oxygen keeps you alife. Oxygen actuallygives you energy. Okay, when you take a breath, a deepbreath, you just take that moment to take, you know, four secondsof a deep breath and hold it and then release it. You're getting oxygento the front of your brain, your prefrontal Cortex, and there is whereyou can get rational thought. So when you take that deep breath, youcan be able to, you know, regain control of the situation and thatshould we think, okay, I can bring myself back to a place ofcalm. Yeah, and then beyond that, if you do not feel prepared foran exam, don't take it, okay, especially if there's an optionto, you know, take a completion exam or something. If you're feelingoverwhelmed and you really really are not great to do this at Xam, thenfind a means where, I guess you you can't take it, take amedical excuse or whatever and help for that issue, okay, because, asI say, something that we can treat. Yeah, and beyond that, youknow, from a global perspect active off of that that topic, thatthat sentence rather about anxiety day, something that we can treat. Actually goingto get help before this actually becomes a major, major issue. So itmay be going to see a therapist it, maybe they teach you some techniques toovercome it. Maybe, you know, then giving you some kind of,you know, tablet, her drug that you can take moments before anoverwhelmingly anxious time. And then beyond that, I think it's just, you know, just educating one Sol and, you know, preparing as best aspossible for itself. A lot of the anxiety and where it comes from notbeing properly prepared or one feeling that you have have it done enough. Soif you do enough, then that's one less thing that you have to worryabout. Yeah, well, I mean, David, I mean was interesting chat. I mean I hope that I can get this video out to asmany, many people. I know that people tend to listen from all acrossthe world, so I mean that's that's them. But I mean I reallywant to see if I can get this video, this video and episode chartedto Beijings especially, you know, because I know that that's that's a topicthat happens. I see a lot on Beijing twitter especially. So I meanthat I do think that's something that's really important. Monks, US as ageneration in Barbados. So mean, once again me I say thank you forjoining me on this way sad podcast episode. I mean, it was absolute pleasureto speak to you about this comy, something that's very important. I thinkit's a should be valued a lot more and guys go and follow lessof pocket. That will be all in the description down below. If there'sany other thing that you want to say quickly, I mean you can rightnow. Yeah, so I just want to say a pip if I thankyou so much for, you know, having this discussion. Is Very importantfor us to do these kind of things that have this kind of composition,especially as young people, because we're the target audience. So where the peoplewho try to make a change, where the people who can lobby government tointertual policies and where the influencers of our generation. So I'm very thankful tohave you on board this movement to see the importance of mental health and Ilook forward to all the good things that will come as a result. Thankyou. Well, yeah, thank you again, David, and me asa side, guys go has going to follow. That's some pockets on.It's only on Instagram or Z on twit as well. We're on Instagram,on facebook and we'll be facebook, website and podcast, very, very so. Yeah, so look for all those guys. Follow Their Instagram, followyour face will they will be all in the description down below and subscribe.If you are new as well, hit by ICON. And thank you,guys once again. If you are listening,...

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